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03/18/2013 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:04:43 PM Start
01:05:08 PM Confirmation Hearing(s):|| Commission on Judicial Conduct
01:10:18 PM Select Committee on Legislative Ethics
01:15:04 PM HB104
02:35:14 PM HB140
02:56:13 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
- Commission on Judicial Conduct
- Select Committee on Legislative Ethics
-- Testimony <Invitation Only> --
+= HB 57 ENTITY TRANSACTIONS ACT TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
*+ HB 140 NOTICE FOR REGULATION ADOPTION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 104 ELECTION PROCEDURES; REAA ADVISORY BOARDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 104(JUD) Out of Committee
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
               HOUSE JUDICIARY STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         March 18, 2013                                                                                         
                           1:04 p.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wes Keller, Chair                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Representative Neal Foster                                                                                                      
Representative Gabrielle LeDoux                                                                                                 
Representative Charisse Millett                                                                                                 
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CONFIRMATION HEARING(S):                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Commission on Judicial Conduct                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     James Christopher Brown - Anchorage                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Select Committee on Legislative Ethics                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Gary J. Turner - Soldotna                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     - CONFIRMATION(S) ADVANCED                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 104                                                                                                              
"An Act  relating to election practices  and procedures; relating                                                               
to  the  election of  an  advisory  school  board in  a  regional                                                               
educational  attendance  area;  and providing  for  an  effective                                                               
date."                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED CSHB 104(JUD) OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 140                                                                                                              
"An Act relating to the information that must be included with                                                                  
certain notices provided for the proposed adoption, amendment,                                                                  
or repeal of a regulation."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     - HEARD & HELD                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE BILL NO. 57                                                                                                               
"An Act adopting the Alaska  Entity Transactions Act; relating to                                                               
changing   the   form   of  entities,   including   corporations,                                                               
partnerships, limited  liability companies, business  trusts, and                                                               
other  organizations; amending  Rule  79, Alaska  Rules of  Civil                                                               
Procedure, and  Rules 602(b)(2), 602(c), and  605.5, Alaska Rules                                                               
of Appellate Procedure; and providing for an effective date."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - SCHEDULED BUT NOT HEARD                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 104                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: ELECTION PROCEDURES; REAA ADVISORY BOARDS                                                                          
SPONSOR(s): RULES BY REQUEST OF THE GOVERNOR                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
02/06/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/06/13       (H)       STA, JUD                                                                                               
02/19/13       (H)       STA AT 8:00 AM CAPITOL 106                                                                             
02/19/13       (H)       Moved CSHB 104(STA) Out of Committee                                                                   
02/19/13       (H)       MINUTE(STA)                                                                                            
02/20/13       (H)       STA RPT CS(STA) NT 5DP 2NR                                                                             
02/20/13       (H)       DP: HUGHES, ISAACSON, GATTIS, KREISS-                                                                  
                         TOMKINS, LYNN                                                                                          
02/20/13       (H)       NR: MILLETT, KELLER                                                                                    
02/27/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
02/27/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
02/27/13       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/04/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/04/13       (H)       Scheduled But Not Heard                                                                                
03/11/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/11/13       (H)       Heard & Held                                                                                           
03/11/13       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/15/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
03/15/13       (H)       Moved CSHB 104(JUD) Out of Committee                                                                   
03/15/13       (H)       MINUTE(JUD)                                                                                            
03/18/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HB 140                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: NOTICE FOR REGULATION ADOPTION                                                                                     
SPONSOR(s): REINBOLD                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
02/22/13       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
02/22/13       (H)       JUD                                                                                                    
03/18/13       (H)       JUD AT 1:00 PM CAPITOL 120                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JAMES CHRISTOPHER BROWN, Appointee                                                                                              
Commission on Judicial Conduct                                                                                                  
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as an appointee to the Commission                                                              
on Judicial Conduct.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GARY J. TURNER, Appointee                                                                                                       
Select Committee on Legislative Ethics                                                                                          
Soldotna, Alaska                                                                                                                
POSITION STATEMENT:  Testified as an appointee to the Select                                                                  
Committee on Legislative Ethics.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GAIL FENUMIAI, Director                                                                                                         
Division of Elections                                                                                                           
Office of the Lieutenant Governor                                                                                               
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During hearing of HB 104, answered                                                                       
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MARGERET PATON WALSH, Assistant Attorney General                                                                                
Labor and State Affairs Section                                                                                                 
Civil Division (Anchorage)                                                                                                      
Department of Law                                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  During hearing of HB 104, answered                                                                       
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
TED MADSEN, Staff                                                                                                               
Representative Gruenberg                                                                                                        
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  During hearing of HB 104, explained                                                                      
Amendment 5.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LORA REINBOLD                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Spoke as the sponsor of HB 140.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT PEARSON, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Lora Reinbold                                                                                                    
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Presented HB 140 on behalf  of the sponsor,                                                             
Representative Reinbold.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CATHY P. FOERSTER, Chair                                                                                                        
Alaska Oil & Gas Conservation Commission (AOGCC)                                                                                
Department of Administration                                                                                                    
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Expressed concern with HB 140.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:04:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WES  KELLER called the  House Judiciary  Standing Committee                                                             
meeting  to   order  at  1:04   p.m.     Representatives  Keller,                                                               
Gruenberg, Foster, LeDoux,  Lynn, and Pruitt were  present at the                                                               
call to  order.   Representative Millett  arrived as  the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
^Confirmation Hearing(s):                                                                                                     
^Commission on Judicial Conduct                                                                                                 
                    Confirmation Hearing(s):                                                                                
                 Commission on Judicial Conduct                                                                             
                                                                                                                              
1:05:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
consideration of  the appointment  of James Christopher  Brown to                                                               
the Commission on Judicial Conduct.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:05:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JAMES  CHRISTOPHER  BROWN,   Appointee,  Commission  on  Judicial                                                               
Conduct, related his appreciation for  the opportunity to serve a                                                               
second  term on  the Commission  on  Judicial Conduct  as he  was                                                               
originally appointed  in 2009.   He related  that he  has enjoyed                                                               
his  education  as to  how  the  Alaska  court system  works  and                                                               
benefited  from his  interaction with  the attorneys  and judges.                                                               
Furthermore, he opined that he's  been able to make a significant                                                               
and worthwhile contribution to the  analysis and review of cases.                                                               
Mr. Brown  further opined that  the commission does  an excellent                                                               
job  of  representing  and  protecting both  the  rights  of  the                                                               
state's citizens  as well  as the rights  and obligations  of the                                                               
officers  of the  court.   Therefore,  Mr. Brown  said he  looked                                                               
forward  to continuing  to serve  on the  Commission on  Judicial                                                               
Conduct.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:06:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  inquired as to how  many cases annually                                                               
the commission finds probable cause with which to proceed.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROWN estimated  that it's a couple to a  few cases each year                                                               
as  the  overwhelming  preponderance of  the  complaints  address                                                               
legal issues  rather than judicial  ethics.  In  further response                                                               
to Representative  Gruenberg, Mr. Brown  said he didn't  find any                                                               
cases that appear fabricated or  vexatious and vindictive against                                                               
judges who render adverse.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:08:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX inquired  as to  the percentage  of cases,                                                               
from those  in which  probable cause was  found to  proceed, were                                                               
found to have engaged in inappropriate conduct.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BROWN, noting  that he  doesn't have  the statistics  before                                                               
him, relayed  that the commission finding  probable cause doesn't                                                               
always  result in  what  he considered  extreme  or very  serious                                                               
consequences,  although any  informal reprimand  or consideration                                                               
would be  considered as such.   Mr. Brown estimated  that clearly                                                               
more  than half  of those  cases  in which  the commission  finds                                                               
probable  cause and  wishes to  further consider  result in  some                                                               
sort of action, whether it be formal or informal action.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:09:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER   reminded  members   that  [signing   the  reports                                                               
regarding  appointments  to  boards  and commissions  in  no  way                                                               
reflects  individual  members'  approval or  disapproval  of  the                                                               
appointees] and that the nominations  are merely forwarded to the                                                               
full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
^Select Committee on Legislative Ethics                                                                                         
             Select Committee on Legislative Ethics                                                                         
                                                                                                                              
1:10:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
consideration of  the appointment  of Gary  Turner to  the Select                                                               
Committee on Legislative Ethics.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:10:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY  J.  TURNER,  Appointee,  Select  Committee  on  Legislative                                                               
Ethics, began by informing the  committee that he has spent seven                                                               
years  on  the Select  Committee  on  Legislative Ethics  and  if                                                               
confirmed this would be his third  term.  He noted that two years                                                               
ago  he  served   as  the  chair  of  the   Select  Committee  on                                                               
Legislative Ethics and  is presently the vice chair.   He related                                                               
the he enjoys working with  the committee, which he characterized                                                               
as  a group  of dedicated  people and  executive director,  Joyce                                                               
Anderson.   The  Selection  Committee on  Legislative Ethics,  he                                                               
opined,  provides very  good guidance  to legislators  and staff.                                                               
The Select Committee  on Legislative Ethics is doing  a good job,                                                               
he stated, particularly  when one considers how  difficult it can                                                               
be to  decipher statute.   Mr. Turner mentioned that  after seven                                                               
years on  the committee he has  learned there are many  shades of                                                               
grey.    In  closing,  Mr.  Turner  said  he  looked  forward  to                                                               
continuing  to  serve  on the  Select  Committee  on  Legislative                                                               
Ethics.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:12:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  inquired as  what Mr.  Turner taught  at the                                                               
Air Force Academy.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TURNER  answered  that  he  taught  literature  and  English                                                               
composition.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:12:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG asked  whether  Mr.  Turner found  many                                                               
cases brought forth maliciously or without any basis in fact.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  TURNER replied  no, recalling  that  there may  have been  a                                                               
couple  such cases  four to  five  years ago  when the  executive                                                               
branch  was undergoing  scrutiny  that resulted  in  a number  of                                                               
ethics complaints.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:13:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT  noted  that   she  sits  on  the  Select                                                               
Committee on  Legislative Ethics with  Mr. Turner, whom  she said                                                               
does a great  job and is professional and efficient.   She opined                                                               
that  it's nice  to have  a member  from outside  the legislative                                                               
environment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:14:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER   reminded  members   that  [signing   the  reports                                                               
regarding  appointments  to  boards  and commissions  in  no  way                                                               
reflects  individual  members'  approval or  disapproval  of  the                                                               
appointees] and that the nominations  are merely forwarded to the                                                               
full legislature for confirmation or rejection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:14:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN made  a motion to forward the  names of James                                                               
Christopher Brown for the Commission  on Judicial Conduct and the                                                               
name of  Gary J. Turner  for the Select Committee  on Legislative                                                               
Ethics.  There being no objection, the names were forwarded.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
        HB 104-ELECTION PROCEDURES; REAA ADVISORY BOARDS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:15:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 104, "An  Act relating to election  practices and                                                               
procedures; relating to the election  of an advisory school board                                                               
in a regional  educational attendance area; and  providing for an                                                               
effective date."   [Before  the committee  was CSHB  104, Version                                                               
28-GH1983\P,  Bullard, 3/12/13,  as  amended,  that was  reported                                                               
from committee on 3/15/13.]                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:15:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN   moved  that  the  committee   rescind  its                                                               
previous  action   in  moving  CSHB  104,   Version  28-GH1983\P,                                                               
Bullard, 3/12/13, as amended, from committee on 3/15/13.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:15:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG objected for discussion purposes.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER explained  that that  the  committee [in  reporting                                                               
Version P,  as amended, from  committee] took action  on [Section                                                               
9] of the  legislation, which has huge policy  ramifications.  He                                                               
opined  that [the  changes to  Section 9]  were not  sufficiently                                                               
discussed or debated.  Furthermore,  he related his understanding                                                               
that [Section  9] is unnecessary  as it's a clarification  of the                                                               
current process  due to federal  law.  Currently,  an application                                                               
is made  available for  absentee ballots  for those  Alaskans who                                                               
are in  the military  or overseas as  a special  accommodation so                                                               
that they can apply electronically.   The aforementioned is based                                                               
on what  the federal  law requires.   Chair Keller  expressed the                                                               
need to  delete Section 9  of Version P  in its entirety  as it's                                                               
unnecessary.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  disclosed that during  the last election  his staff                                                               
regularly acquired  from the  Division of  Elections the  list of                                                               
those individuals who had applied  electronically for an absentee                                                               
ballot.   The  goal was  to isolate  any new  applicants so  that                                                               
campaign  materials could  be sent  to the  new applicants.   The                                                               
aforementioned  technique, one  that a  number of  candidates may                                                               
use,  requires   some  sophistication  in  terms   of  using  the                                                               
database.   He  opined  that [Section  9]  introduces a  campaign                                                               
strategy into HB 104, which was  not intended.  If [Section 9] is                                                               
left  in HB  104 without  amendment, he  suggested that  it would                                                               
provide an  advantage to incumbents  who would know to  watch for                                                               
applied  absentee   ballots  the  entire  year   whereas  someone                                                               
entering the  election process later  may not have  the personnel                                                               
or sophistication  to [track/target new applicants].   Therefore,                                                               
Chair Keller related his preference to delete [Section 9].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:19:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG related  that although  he will  oppose                                                               
the motion  to delete  [Section 9],  as a  matter of  courtesy he                                                               
withdrew his objection  to the motion to  rescind the committee's                                                               
action  in  reporting  CSHB  104, Version  P,  as  amended,  from                                                               
committee on 3/15/13.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  further  objection, CSHB  104,  Version  P,  as                                                               
amended on 3/15/13, was before the committee.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:19:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  made a motion to  adopt Conceptual Amendment                                                               
1, which  would delete Section 9  in its entirety from  Version P                                                               
[as amended on 3/15/13].                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   objected  and  inquired  as   to  the                                                               
Division of Elections' position.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:21:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GAIL  FENUMIAI, Director,  Division of  Elections, Office  of the                                                               
Lieutenant Governor,  explained that  the division's  intent with                                                               
Section  9  was to  harmonize  with  federal law,  Uniformed  and                                                               
Overseas  Citizens Absentee  Voting  Act  (UOCAVA), which  allows                                                               
military  and  overseas  voters   to  apply  anytime  during  the                                                               
calendar  year to  receive  their  ballot electronically  whereas                                                               
state law  and regulation only  allow non UOCAVA to  apply within                                                               
the 15-day window prior to an  election.  The division thought it                                                               
would  be  a good  idea  for  state  law  to match  federal  law.                                                               
However, it was  not in the state code for  the previous election                                                               
cycles and the division will  continue to perform its business as                                                               
it has in the past.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER commented that the  matter [addressed in Section 9],                                                               
due  to the  huge  policy ramifications,  could  be addressed  in                                                               
another bill.   He then related his understanding  that the state                                                               
is complying with federal law under the state's existing law.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI confirmed that to be the case.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:23:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  asked   whether   the  division   was                                                               
operating without state statutory  authority when the language on                                                               
page 4, lines 20-25, wasn't included.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI pointed  out that as currently  written AS 15.20.066                                                               
specifies that the division can  write regulations to address the                                                               
use of  electronic ballots.   The statute further  specifies that                                                               
the division  should consider the  timelines and comply  with the                                                               
same time period  that is allowed for  absentee in-person voting,                                                               
which is 15  days prior to the election.   The aforementioned has                                                               
been  the state's  interpretation of  how to  handle applications                                                               
for  receipt  of  ballots  electronically.     The  Military  and                                                               
Overseas Voters  Empowerment Act (MOVE Act)  states that military                                                               
uniformed  citizens  are  allowed  to apply  for  receipt  of  an                                                               
electronic  ballot anytime  during the  calendar year,  which was                                                               
not included  in state  law.  Therefore,  the state  followed the                                                               
federal law  [to be in compliance  with the MOVE Act].   For non-                                                               
UOCAVA voters the state law was followed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:24:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG again  asked whether  the division  has                                                               
been operating without state statutory  authority.  He then asked                                                               
whether the  federal government giving [military  citizens living                                                               
overseas] the  right to vote automatically  empowers the Division                                                               
of  Elections  to  give  those   voters  additional  time  or  is                                                               
legislation such as HB 104  necessary to ensure that the division                                                               
isn't violating state law.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FENUMIAI specified  that the  division's interpretation,  in                                                               
consultation  with  the Department  of  Law  (DOL), is  that  the                                                               
division doesn't need it  to be in state law.   She likened it to                                                               
the  45-day ballot  mailing  for UOCAVA  voters,  which isn't  in                                                               
state law but  is in federal law and the  state is complying with                                                               
that  federal  law.    Although HB  104  [as  currently  written,                                                               
Version P as amended on  3/15/13] would insert [the 45-day ballot                                                               
mailing for  UOCAVA voters] in  state statute so that  it's clear                                                               
that it  must be done,  it doesn't have  to be included  in state                                                               
code because it's in federal law.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  stated that it's a  core legal question                                                               
as to  whether there is  solid authority that gives  the division                                                               
the  legal right  to do  what  it's doing  without this  language                                                               
[proposed in Version P].                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  disagreed, and echoed Ms.  Fenumiai's understanding                                                               
that it's not necessary to include it in state law.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
1:27:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LEDOUX  related   her  understanding   that  the                                                               
division  is [allowing  uniformed  services  voters and  overseas                                                               
voters to apply to vote  an absentee ballot electronically at any                                                               
time  during a  calendar  year]  pursuant to  federal  law.   She                                                               
questioned  whether  that  [federal  law  would  only  apply]  to                                                               
federal  elections or  whether  it would  apply  to purely  state                                                               
elections.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI informed  the committee that in  Alaska any election                                                               
that involves  a race for  federal office includes  every primary                                                               
and general election.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG expressed  the need  to have  testimony                                                               
from  DOL as  there  is  a difference  between  saying a  federal                                                               
requirement  for   voting  in  state  elections   versus  federal                                                               
elections.   He offered his  understanding that the  language "in                                                               
federal  elections" only  refers to  those elections  for federal                                                               
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:28:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX surmised  that Ms.  Fenumiai has  answered                                                               
that question because each year there  is a race for Congress and                                                               
thus on the [state] ballot there is a federal question.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  offered his understanding  that usually                                                               
federal laws only apply to  election to federal office, but asked                                                               
if that's the case.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI clarified, "It's for  an election in which there's a                                                               
race  for a  federal  office.   The  federal  law covers  federal                                                               
offices in an election.  And  in the State of Alaska, the primary                                                               
and general election always have  a federal office on the ballot.                                                               
The U.S. Congressional race is  always on the primary and general                                                               
election ballot."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  whether  Ms.  Fenumiai  has  an                                                               
authority for that interpretation that she can provide.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FENUMIAI replied  no, but  noted that  an attorney  is being                                                               
contacted for assistance.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:30:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI  explained that  the state  has been  complying with                                                               
the federal  MOVE Act,  although those  statutes haven't  been in                                                               
the state's  code.  The  state will  continue to comply  with the                                                               
MOVE  Act even  if those  statutes  aren't placed  in state  code                                                               
because the  division is held  accountable for  following federal                                                               
law.  In response to a  question, Ms. Fenumiai clarified that the                                                               
MOVE Act  is an amendment to  UOCAVA.  After confirming  that the                                                               
division  is  following [the  MOVE  Act]  without specific  state                                                               
statutory authority,  Ms. Fenumiai said there  is codification in                                                               
state  law to  clarify  that ballots  for  military and  overseas                                                               
uniformed citizens are mailed 45 days prior to the election.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:32:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  asked whether [the MOVE  Act] is different                                                               
than the Voting Rights Act.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI replied  no.  She explained  that federal assistance                                                               
voting folks encouraged the division  to insert the 45-day ballot                                                               
mailing into state  law.  However, she confirmed  that the Voting                                                               
Rights Act  provisions aren't  in state law  because they  are in                                                               
federal law.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 1:33 p.m. to 1:50 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:50:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MARGERET  PATON  WALSH,  Assistant Attorney  General,  Labor  and                                                               
State Affairs Section, Civil  Division (Anchorage), Department of                                                               
Law, related  her understanding  that the  bill provides  for the                                                               
same deadline, a  15-day deadline for an  absentee ballot, unless                                                               
the individual  is a uniformed  services voter or  overseas voter                                                               
who  have a  year.   She related  her further  understanding that                                                               
[Version P,  as amended] would extend  the deadline of a  year to                                                               
everyone.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  clarified  that  the  committee  is  contemplating                                                               
removing Section 9 from [Version P,  as amended].  He offered his                                                               
understanding that the question is  whether or not it's necessary                                                               
for  state law  to authorize  actions,  given that  the state  is                                                               
already following the federal law.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATON WALSH  explained  that the  federal  law provides  for                                                               
different deadlines  and rules for uniformed  voters overseas and                                                               
the state  must comply with those  regardless of state law.   She                                                               
characterized  it  as  a straight-forward  supremacy  issue,  and                                                               
therefore  the state  doesn't  have any  freedom  to do  anything                                                               
differently  than what  federal law  requires.   She offered  her                                                               
understanding that the changes were  simply to clarify for voters                                                               
what is  happening because  it creates  confusion when  state law                                                               
provides for something different, but  that's not actually how it                                                               
works.  Therefore, it's an attempt  to harmonize the state law so                                                               
that it says  what will actually happen because  that's what will                                                               
happen under  federal law.   Ms.  Paton Walsh  opined, therefore,                                                               
that the  change doesn't have  to be  made, but it's  helpful for                                                               
statutes to specify what's really going to happen.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:53:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  asked whether  the federal  law applies                                                               
to all races on a ballot that contain races for federal office.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATON  WALSH,  noting  that the  difficulty  is  the  single                                                               
ballot, offered her belief that  one could make the argument that                                                               
the state doesn't  have to comply with federal  law for elections                                                               
that are entirely  state elections.  However,  she cautioned that                                                               
the  reality  is that  the  division  doesn't  hold many  if  any                                                               
elections in which there isn't a  federal race on the ballot.  An                                                               
administrative nightmare  is created by imposing  different rules                                                               
on different  races in an election  that takes place on  the same                                                               
day.   She questioned why  that would occur, even  if technically                                                               
it's an entirely local/state election  in which the federal rules                                                               
might not apply.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:55:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG asked  whether, as a matter  of law, the                                                               
federal law would apply to state races.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATON WALSH  answered that  she  didn't know  for sure,  but                                                               
offered  her  sense that  those  federal  laws apply  to  federal                                                               
elections  not state  elections.   However,  she maintained  that                                                               
federal law might apply.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  expressed the need  to be sure  that no                                                               
argument/legal question can be made to void an election.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PATON  WALSH said  she  was  not  sure of  the  hypothetical                                                               
situation in which an election could  be held invalid as a result                                                               
of the presence or absence of  this language [in Section 9].  The                                                               
reason to  include [Section 9],  she opined,  is that all  of the                                                               
state's  elections  effectively  involve  some  kind  of  federal                                                               
office  and there  is  no  desire to  run  two separate  election                                                               
tracks.     Furthermore,  all  of  the   elections  will  provide                                                               
absentee-ballot opportunities  as required by federal  law, which                                                               
provides more  time to apply  than Alaska  state law.   Since the                                                               
state  is going  to  comply with  the federal  law,  it would  be                                                               
easier  and less  confusing  for  voters to  have  the state  law                                                               
specify what the Division of Elections is actually doing.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:58:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER   surmised  that  Representative   Gruenberg  would                                                               
maintain his  objection [to the adoption  of Conceptual Amendment                                                               
1, which  would delete Section  9 from  Version P, as  amended on                                                               
3/15/13].                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
1:59:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Pruitt,  Foster,                                                               
LeDoux,  Lynn, and  Keller  voted  in favor  of  the adoption  of                                                               
Conceptual Amendment  1.  Representative Gruenberg  voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore,  Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted by  a vote of                                                               
5-1.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:00:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2,  which would insert  the language [of Section  9] as                                                               
it  appears on  page 4  of  Version P  prior to  the adoption  of                                                               
Amendment 3 on 3/15/13.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  stated that he  would be voting  against Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 2 as it's unnecessary.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:01:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   pointed  out  that  what   are  being                                                               
addressed  are the  rights of  service men  and women  and people                                                               
living  overseas to  vote.   The  aforementioned is  sufficiently                                                               
important  that   the  language  should  be   inserted  into  the                                                               
legislation, particularly as  there is no harm/risk  in doing so.                                                               
Without  the language,  there  is  the risk  of  a  problem.   He                                                               
questioned  why one  would  invite  a problem  when  there is  no                                                               
reason to do so to do anything that might jeopardize their vote.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT, returning to  the discussion on the Voting                                                               
Rights Act,  opined that  there are voting  related items  not in                                                               
statute  that   the  state   has  to   uphold.     Therefore,  he                                                               
characterized  [Conceptual   Amendment  2]  as   unnecessary  and                                                               
related that he would be opposing Conceptual.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN emphasized  his belief that no  member of the                                                               
committee  wants to  jeopardize  the voting  rights  of the  U.S.                                                               
military located anywhere in the world.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:03:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representative Gruenberg  voted in                                                               
favor  of  Conceptual  Amendment   2.    Representatives  Pruitt,                                                               
Foster, LeDoux,  Lynn, and Keller  voted against it.   Therefore,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 2 failed to be adopted by a vote of 1-5.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:03:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG made  a  motion to  adopt Amendment  3,                                                               
labeled 28-GH1983\P.3, Bullard, 3/14/13, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, following line 17:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "*   Sec.  12.   AS 15.20.081(i)  is   repealed  and                                                                
     reenacted to read:                                                                                                         
          (i)  An absentee ballot application submitted by                                                                      
     a qualified voter or on  behalf of a qualified voter is                                                                    
     valid through  the two general elections  following the                                                                    
     date the application is submitted.  If a voter casts an                                                                    
     absentee ballot  in accordance with  (d) - (f)  of this                                                                    
     section,  the   voter's  absentee   ballot  application                                                                    
     remains  valid   through  the  two   general  elections                                                                    
     following the  election in which  the ballot  was cast.                                                                    
     However,  nothing  in   this  subsection  requires  the                                                                    
     director or an election  supervisor to send an absentee                                                                    
     ballot  to  a  voter  after the  director  or  election                                                                    
     supervisor has  received actual  notice that  mail sent                                                                    
     to the  permanent mailing  address of  the voter,  or a                                                                    
     different   address   provided   by   the   voter,   is                                                                    
     undeliverable to the voter at that address."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 13, line 21:                                                                                                          
          Delete ", 15.20.081(i),"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT objected.   He recalled testimony last week                                                               
"that  the Division  of Elections  has found  in many  cases when                                                               
we've done  two out that  we're getting  a lot of  returns coming                                                               
back on that second one."  He  then opined that it's best to have                                                               
voters apply for  an absentee ballot for each  election for which                                                               
they wish to obtain an absentee ballot.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:05:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER ruled Amendment 3 out  of order because it's part of                                                               
another  bill,  HB  12,  currently in  the  House  State  Affairs                                                               
Standing Committee.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG appealed  the ruling  of the  chair and                                                               
explained  if the  ruling of  the chair  prevails, [Amendment  3]                                                               
won't be debated on its merit.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER reiterated that Amendment 3 is out of order.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LYNN  invited Representative Gruenberg  to provide                                                               
testimony on HB  12 when and if the House  State Affairs Standing                                                               
Committee takes it up.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG withdrew his  challenge of the ruling of                                                               
the chair  and expressed the hope  that HB 12 is  scheduled for a                                                               
hearing in the House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:07:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  then asked  Chair Keller  to reconsider                                                               
his ruling  and allow  Amendment 3  to be  divided such  that the                                                               
portion not in HB 12 can be considered.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  said he wouldn't  allow Amendment 3 to  be divided,                                                               
but  suggested  that   a  new  amendment  could   be  offered  if                                                               
Representative Gruenberg so desired.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:09:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 4, as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Page 13, line 21:                                                                                                          
          Delete ", 15.20.081(i),"                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  informed   the   committee  that   AS                                                               
15.20.081(i) read as follows:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
          (i) An absentee ballot application submitted by                                                                       
     an  absent uniformed  services voter  or  by an  absent                                                                    
     overseas voter  qualifying under AS 15.05.011  is valid                                                                    
     through  the  next   two  regularly  scheduled  general                                                                    
     elections  for  federal  office   after  the  date  the                                                                    
     application is  submitted. In this  subsection, "absent                                                                    
     uniformed services  voter" has the meaning  given in 42                                                                    
     U.S.C. 1973ff-6.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG pointed out  that Conceptual Amendment 4                                                               
would  leave existing  language in  statute, which  he opined  is                                                               
important to ensure  that military and overseas  voters can apply                                                               
for absentee  ballot applications through the  next two regularly                                                               
scheduled general elections  for federal office.   He offered his                                                               
understanding from  Ms. Fenumiai that the  reason those [statute]                                                               
aren't  in the  federal  law  is because  it  was  viewed as  too                                                               
administratively  difficult to  apply.   However,  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg   opined   that   the  small   amount   of   additional                                                               
administrative work  is well worth providing  [uniformed military                                                               
and overseas voters] the right to vote.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 2:11 p.m. to 2:17 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:17:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER  objected to Conceptual  Amendment 4  recalling that                                                               
the Division  of Elections had  testified that  [AS 15.20.081(i)]                                                               
isn't necessary.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT offered his  recollection that the division                                                               
had testified  at the [3/15/13] hearing  regarding the difficulty                                                               
of following  [uniformed military  and overseas voters]  over the                                                               
course  of   two  general  elections   as  they're   a  transient                                                               
population.    He highlighted  that  the  federal government  has                                                               
already eliminated this provision.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:18:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  FENUMIAI  explained  that the  division  is  proposing  this                                                               
repeal  of   AS  15.20.081(i)  because  the   federal  government                                                               
originally included this provision in  the MOVE Act, but repealed                                                               
it  after finding  that military  populations are  very transient                                                               
and the  address provided in  the first year  may not be  a valid                                                               
address two  years later.   She recalled having over  900 ballots                                                               
to  UOCAVA voters  returned as  undeliverable with  no forwarding                                                               
address following  the primary.   During  the 2012  elections, of                                                               
the  over  2,600  voters  over  1,600  qualified  to  have  their                                                               
application  good for  two general  elections  either not  return                                                               
their ballot or it was  returned as undeliverable. In response to                                                               
a question, Ms. Fenumiai estimated  that of the little over 2,600                                                               
voters   who  qualified   for   the   extended  absentee   ballot                                                               
application, about 1,000 ballots were  returned to and counted by                                                               
the division  because about 1,600 were  returned as undeliverable                                                               
or were  not returned at  all.   Following the primary,  over 900                                                               
ballots  were returned  as undeliverable.   She  highlighted that                                                               
the division  does make  an attempt  to contact  these [uniformed                                                               
military and overseas] voters at the  beginning of the year in an                                                               
attempt to confirm/update  the mailing address.   Because the law                                                               
exists the division must continue  to send these voters [for whom                                                               
the inquiry was  returned as undeliverable or  wasn't returned at                                                               
all] a ballot.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:21:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG   recalled  that  per   Ms.  Fenumiai's                                                               
request  the following  language  in Conceptual  Amendment 4  was                                                               
included:                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     However,  nothing  in   this  subsection  requires  the                                                                    
     director or an election  supervisor to send an absentee                                                                    
     ballot  to  a  voter  after the  director  or  election                                                                    
     supervisor has  received actual  notice that  mail sent                                                                    
     to the  permanent mailing  address of  the voter,  or a                                                                    
     different   address   provided   by   the   voter,   is                                                                    
     undeliverable to the voter at that address.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  asked  whether simply  adding  to  [AS                                                               
15.20.081(i)]   the   abovementioned   language   in   Conceptual                                                               
Amendment   4  would   satisfy   her  objection   and  ease   the                                                               
administrative  burden on  the  division  and not  disenfranchise                                                               
1,000 voters.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI opined  that no voter would  ever be disenfranchised                                                               
because  every  voter  has  the  opportunity  to  apply  [for  an                                                               
absentee ballot] at the beginning  of every calendar year for all                                                               
elections  in  a  calendar  year.    Furthermore,  it's  a  minor                                                               
conflict  of state  and  federal law  as  the federal  government                                                               
repealed  the   provision  and  the  federal   voting  assistance                                                               
program,  the sole  responsibility  of which  is  to protect  the                                                               
rights of military and overseas  voters, encouraged the repeal of                                                               
the MOVE Act.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER maintained his objection.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote was  taken.  Representative Gruenberg  voted in                                                               
favor of Conceptual Amendment 4.   Representatives Lynn, Millett,                                                               
Pruitt, Foster, LeDoux, and Keller  voted against it.  Therefore,                                                               
Conceptual Amendment 4 failed to be adopted by a vote of 1-6.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:23:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  informed  the  committee  that  the  amendment  in                                                               
committee  member's   packets  labeled   28-GH1983\P.2,  Bullard,                                                               
3/14/13, is in  essence HB 11, which is in  the possession of the                                                               
House State Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:23:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG made  a  motion to  adopt Amendment  5,                                                               
labeled 28-GH1983\P.6, Bullard, 3/14/13, which read:                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, line 1, following "procedures;":                                                                                 
          Insert "relating to voter registration;"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, following line 3:                                                                                                  
          Insert new bill sections to read:                                                                                     
        "* Sec. 3. AS 15.07.050(a) is amended to read:                                                                      
          (a)  Registration may be made                                                                                         
               (1)  in person before a registration                                                                             
     official or through a voter registration agency;                                                                           
               (2)  by another individual on behalf of the                                                                      
     voter  if  the voter  has  executed  a written  general                                                                    
     power  of  attorney  or  a  written  special  power  of                                                                    
     attorney authorizing that  other individual to register                                                                    
     the voter;                                                                                                                 
               (3)  by mail; [OR]                                                                                               
               (4) online; or                                                                                               
               (5) by facsimile transmission, scanning, or                                                                  
     other [ANOTHER] method  of electronic transmission that                                                                
     the director approves.                                                                                                     
        * Sec. 4. AS 15.07.055(e) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (e)  The director shall enter into an agreement                                                                       
     with   the  Department   of   Administration  and   the                                                                    
     Department of Revenue  to match identifying information                                                                    
     provided by  a voter  who initially registers  by mail,                                                                
     online,   or   by   facsimile   or   other   electronic                                                                
     transmission   approved    by   the    director   under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050 with existing identification records                                                                          
               (1)  maintained by the administrative                                                                            
     component  of  the  Department of  Administration  that                                                                    
     administers  motor vehicle  and  driver's license  laws                                                                    
     and by  the administrative component of  the Department                                                                    
     of   Revenue  that   administers  the   permanent  fund                                                                    
     dividend laws; and                                                                                                         
               (2)  bearing the same identifying number,                                                                        
     name, and date of birth provided on the registration.                                                                      
        * Sec. 5. AS 15.07.060(e) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (e)  For an applicant requesting initial                                                                              
     registration by mail, online, or  by facsimile or other                                                                
     electronic transmission approved  by the director under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050,   the    director   shall    verify   the                                                                    
     information provided in compliance  with (a)(2) and (3)                                                                    
     of this section through  state agency records described                                                                    
     in  AS 15.07.055(e).  If  the applicant  cannot  comply                                                                    
     with the requirement of (a)(2)  of this section because                                                                    
     the applicant  has not  been issued  any of  the listed                                                                    
     numbers,  the applicant  may instead  submit a  copy of                                                                    
     one  of  the  following   forms  of  identification:  a                                                                    
     driver's  license, state  identification card,  current                                                                    
     and  valid  photo  identification,  birth  certificate,                                                                    
     passport, or hunting or fishing license.                                                                                   
        * Sec. 6. AS 15.07.070(b) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (b)  To register by mail or by facsimile,                                                                             
     scanning, or other  electronic transmission approved by                                                                    
     the  director  under  AS 15.07.050, the  director,  the                                                                    
     area  election  supervisor,  or  a  voter  registration                                                                    
     agency shall  furnish, at no  cost to the  voter, forms                                                                    
     prepared  by the  director  on  which the  registration                                                                    
     information  required   under  AS 15.07.060   shall  be                                                                    
     inserted by  the voter,  by a person  on behalf  of the                                                                    
     voter if that person is  designated to act on behalf of                                                                    
     the voter  in a power  of attorney,  or by a  person on                                                                    
     behalf  of  the  voter  if   the  voter  is  physically                                                                    
     incapacitated.    For    registration   online    under                                                                
     AS 15.07.050(a)(4),  the  director   shall  provide  an                                                                
     electronic  version  of  the   forms  on  the  Internet                                                                
     website  of  the  division. The  director  may  require                                                                
     proof of  identification of  the applicant  as required                                                                    
     by regulations  adopted by the director  under AS 44.62                                                                    
     (Administrative  Procedure   Act).  Upon   receipt  and                                                                    
     approval  of  the  completed  registration  forms,  the                                                                    
     director or  the election  supervisor shall  forward to                                                                    
     the  voter  an  acknowledgment, and  the  voter's  name                                                                    
     shall immediately be placed on  the master register. If                                                                    
     the   registration   is   denied,   the   voter   shall                                                                    
     immediately  be informed  in writing  that registration                                                                    
     was denied and the  reason for denial. When identifying                                                                    
     information has been provided by  the voter as required                                                                    
     by this chapter, the  election supervisor shall forward                                                                    
     to the voter a registration card.                                                                                          
        * Sec. 7. AS 15.07.070(c) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (c)  The names of persons submitting completed                                                                        
     registration  forms  by  mail that  are  postmarked  at                                                                    
     least 30  days before the next  election, or submitting                                                                    
     completed registration forms online  or by facsimile or                                                                
     other electronic transmission  approved by the director                                                                    
     under AS 15.07.050  that are received at  least 30 days                                                                    
     before  the  next  election, shall  be  placed  on  the                                                                    
     official  registration list  for  that  election. If  a                                                                    
     registration form  received by  mail less than  30 days                                                                    
     before an  election does not  have a legible  and dated                                                                    
     postmark, the  name of the  person submitting  the form                                                                    
     shall be  placed on the official  registration list for                                                                    
     that election if  the form was signed and  dated by the                                                                    
     person at least 30 days  before the election and if the                                                                    
     form   is  received   by  the   director  or   election                                                                    
     supervisor at  least 25 days  before the  election. The                                                                    
     name of  a person  submitting a  completed registration                                                                    
     form  by  mail,  online,  or   by  facsimile  or  other                                                                
     electronic   transmission  that   does  not   meet  the                                                                    
     applicable requirements  of this subsection may  not be                                                                    
     placed  on  the  official registration  list  for  that                                                                    
     election  but shall  be placed  on the  master register                                                                    
     after that election.                                                                                                       
        * Sec. 8. AS 15.07.070(f) is amended to read:                                                                         
          (f)  Incomplete or inaccurate registration forms                                                                      
     may  not  be  accepted.   A  person  who  submitted  an                                                                    
     incomplete   or   inaccurate  registration   form   may                                                                    
     register    by   reexecuting    and   resubmitting    a                                                                    
     registration  form in  person, by  mail, online,  or by                                                                
     facsimile or other  electronic transmission approved by                                                                    
     the  director under  AS 15.07.050. The  requirements of                                                                    
     (c)  or (d)  of this  section apply  to a  registration                                                                    
     form resubmitted under this subsection."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 4, following line 5:                                                                                                  
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 14. AS 15.15.225(b) is amended to read:                                                                     
          (b)  An election official may waive the                                                                               
     identification  requirement  if the  election  official                                                                    
     knows  the identity  of the  voter. The  identification                                                                    
     requirement  may  not  be waived  for  voters  who  are                                                                    
     first-time  voters who  initially  registered by  mail,                                                                
     online,   or   by   facsimile   or   other   electronic                                                                
     transmission   approved    by   the    director   under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050,  and did  not  provide identification  as                                                                    
     required in AS 15.07.060."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, following line 17:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 19. AS 15.20.081(f) is amended to read:                                                                     
          (f)  The director shall require a voter casting                                                                       
     an  absentee  ballot  by  mail   to  provide  proof  of                                                                    
     identification  or  other  information to  aid  in  the                                                                    
     establishment of the voter's  identity as prescribed by                                                                    
     regulations  adopted   under  AS 44.62  (Administrative                                                                    
     Procedure Act). If the voter  is a first-time voter who                                                                    
     initially registered  by mail, online, or  by facsimile                                                                
     or  other  electronic   transmission  approved  by  the                                                                    
     director  under  AS 15.07.050  and   has  not  met  the                                                                    
     identification  requirements set  out in  AS 15.07.060,                                                                    
     the voter  must provide one  of the following  forms of                                                                    
     proof of identification:                                                                                                   
               (1)  a copy of a driver's license, state                                                                         
     identification   card,   current    and   valid   photo                                                                    
     identification,   birth   certificate,   passport,   or                                                                    
     hunting or fishing license; or                                                                                             
               (2)  a  copy of a current  utility bill, bank                                                                    
     statement,   paycheck,  government   check,  or   other                                                                    
     government  document;  an   item  provided  under  this                                                                    
     paragraph  must show  the name  and current  address of                                                                    
     the voter."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 5, following line 29:                                                                                                 
          Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                    
        "* Sec. 21. AS 15.20.203(b) is amended to read:                                                                     
         (b)  An absentee ballot may not be counted if                                                                          
               (1)    the  voter   has  failed  to  properly                                                                    
     execute the certificate;                                                                                                   
               (2)  an official  or the witnesses authorized                                                                    
     by  law  to  attest  the voter's  certificate  fail  to                                                                    
     execute  the  certificate,   except  that  an  absentee                                                                    
     ballot  cast  in person  and  accepted  by an  absentee                                                                    
     voting official  or election supervisor may  be counted                                                                    
     despite  failure of  the  absentee  voting official  or                                                                    
     election  supervisor  to  properly sign  and  date  the                                                                    
     voter's certificate  as attesting official  as required                                                                    
     under AS 15.20.061(c);                                                                                                     
               (3)  the ballot is  not attested on or before                                                                    
     the date of the election;                                                                                                  
               (4)    the  ballot,  if  postmarked,  is  not                                                                    
     postmarked on or before the date of the election;                                                                          
               (5)   after the  day of election,  the ballot                                                                    
     was delivered by a means other than mail; or                                                                               
               (6)  the voter voted                                                                                             
               (A)  in person and is a                                                                                          
               (i)      first-time   voter   who   initially                                                                    
     registered by  mail, online, or  by facsimile  or other                                                                
     electronic transmission approved  by the director under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050,  has  not   provided  the  identification                                                                    
     required  by  AS 15.15.225(a),  was  not  eligible  for                                                                    
     waiver   of   the  identification   requirement   under                                                                    
     AS 15.15.225(b), and  has not provided  the identifiers                                                                    
     required  in AS 15.07.060(a)(2)  and  (3)  that can  be                                                                    
     verified  through  state  agency records  described  in                                                                    
     AS 15.07.055(e); or                                                                                                        
               (ii)   voter other than one  described in (i)                                                                    
     of  this subparagraph,  did not  provide identification                                                                    
     described in AS 15.15.225(a),  was not personally known                                                                    
     by  the election  official, and  has  not provided  the                                                                    
     identifiers required in AS 15.07.060(a)(2) and (3); or                                                                     
               (B)  by mail, online, or electronic                                                                          
     transmission,  is  a  first-time  voter  who  initially                                                                    
     registered by mail or by  facsimile or other electronic                                                                    
     transmission   approved    by   the    director   under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050 to  vote, has  not met  the identification                                                                    
     requirements  set out  in  AS 15.07.060,  and does  not                                                                    
     submit with the ballot a copy of a                                                                                         
               (i)  driver's license, state identification                                                                      
     card,  current and  valid  photo identification,  birth                                                                    
     certificate, passport,  or hunting or  fishing license;                                                                    
     or                                                                                                                         
               (ii)  current utility bill, bank statement,                                                                      
     paycheck,   government  check,   or  other   government                                                                    
     document;  an item  described in  this sub-subparagraph                                                                    
     must show the name and current address of the voter."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Page 6, following line 18:                                                                                                 
     Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                         
        "* Sec. 24. AS 15.20.207(b) is amended to read:                                                                     
          (b)  A questioned ballot may not be counted if                                                                        
     the voter                                                                                                                  
               (1)  has failed to properly execute the                                                                          
     certificate;                                                                                                               
               (2)  is a first-time voter who initially                                                                         
     registered by  mail, online, or  by facsimile  or other                                                                
     electronic transmission approved  by the director under                                                                    
     AS 15.07.050,  has  not   provided  the  identification                                                                    
     required  by  AS 15.15.225(a),  was  not  eligible  for                                                                    
     waiver   of   the  identification   requirement   under                                                                    
     AS 15.15.225(b), and  has not provided  the identifiers                                                                    
     required  in AS 15.07.060(a)(2)  and  (3)  that can  be                                                                    
     verified  through  state  agency records  described  in                                                                    
     AS 15.07.055(e); or                                                                                                        
               (3)  is a voter other than one described in                                                                      
     (2) of this subsection,  did not provide identification                                                                    
     described in AS 15.15.225(a),  was not personally known                                                                    
     by  the election  official, and  has  not provided  the                                                                    
     identifiers required in AS 15.07.060(a)(2) and (3)."                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER objected.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:24:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TED  MADSEN,   Staff,  Representative  Gruenberg,   Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  explained  that  Amendment 5  would  allow  Alaskan                                                               
citizens to register  to vote online and would amend  a number of                                                               
provisions in Title 15.   According to the National Conference of                                                               
State Legislatures (NCSL), 15 states  have already adopted online                                                               
voter  registration  and  another  14  have  similar  legislation                                                               
pending.   He noted  that Arizona  was the  first state  to adopt                                                               
online voter registration in 2002, and  it has resulted in a cost                                                               
savings  according to  a Pew  Center on  the States  study.   The                                                               
study,  which  focused on  Arizona  and  Washington, found  paper                                                               
voter  registration cost  $.83 [per  ballot]  to process  whereas                                                               
online voter  registration cost  $.03 [per  ballot].   Mr. Madsen                                                               
highlighted    that    online    voter    registration    is    a                                                               
bipartisan/nonpartisan cost savings measure  that also speeds the                                                               
process by which citizens are allowed to register to vote.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:26:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  inquired as  to the cost  of implementing                                                               
the  program  as outlined  in  Amendment  5  and inquired  as  to                                                               
whether there is a fiscal note.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MADSEN responded  that he doesn't have a fiscal  note for the                                                               
amendment.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:27:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  characterized the proposal in  Amendment 5                                                               
as  a huge  policy  change,  which he  would  oppose  due to  the                                                               
security aspect  of it.   There is a  lot of potential  for fraud                                                               
via the  online voting  system.  He  informed the  committee that                                                               
the National  Institute of Standards  and Technology  has advised                                                               
voting  against online  voting.   He  announced that  he will  be                                                               
voting against Amendment 5.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  expressed  disfavor  with Amendment  5,  which  is                                                               
lengthy   and   extensively   changes  the   title   to   include                                                               
registration and  procedures that aren't included  in the current                                                               
bill put forth  by the Division of Elections.   He then requested                                                               
that Representative Gruenberg withdraw  Amendment 5 and introduce                                                               
the concepts it embodies in another bill instead.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:29:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG announced  that  he  will not  withdraw                                                               
Amendment 5.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:31:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG inquired as to  the cost of the proposal                                                               
embodied in Amendment 5.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. FENUMIAI  said she  didn't have  an estimate  of the  cost at                                                               
this time.  In further  response to Representative Gruenberg, Ms.                                                               
Fenumiai  said that  she did  not know  of any  true voter  fraud                                                               
issues.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:31:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRUITT  opined that the initial  registration is a                                                               
bit different than voter fraud.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:32:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT offered  that although she is  in favor of                                                               
electronic voting  and the  state should  move toward  that, this                                                               
bill isn't the  appropriate vehicle.  Furthermore,  it's a larger                                                               
issue than  the House Judiciary  Standing Committee  can discuss.                                                               
She then  encouraged the  amendment sponsor  to introduce  a bill                                                               
about Internet voting.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:32:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FOSTER   agreed  with   Representative  Millett's                                                               
comments and  expressed the  desire to  have the  confidence that                                                               
the concerns  by Representative Pruitt are  addressed, perhaps in                                                               
a pilot program and a separate bill.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:33:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG withdrew Amendment 5.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:34:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LYNN  moved  to  report  CSHB  104,  Version  28-                                                               
GH1983\P, Bullard,  3/12/13, as  amended [on 3/15/13  and today],                                                               
out  of   committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  the                                                               
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being no objection, [new] CSHB
104(JUD)  was   reported  from   the  House   Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
             HB 140-NOTICE FOR REGULATION ADOPTION                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:35:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that the  final order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL NO.  140, "An  Act relating  to the  information that                                                               
must be included  with certain notices provided  for the proposed                                                               
adoption, amendment, or repeal of a regulation."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:35:32 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   LORA   REINBOLD,   Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
explained that HB  140 is intended to address  what many consider                                                               
to be  too many regulations.   The purpose of  HB 140 is  to make                                                               
the government  and the  regulators aware of  the impacts  of the                                                               
regulations. She  opined that government agencies  and regulators                                                               
need to work collaboratively with  businesses and communities and                                                               
be  reminded  that they  work  for  the people.    Representative                                                               
Reinbold  then paraphrased  from the  written sponsor  statement,                                                               
which read:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Under current law, state  agencies that propose changes                                                                    
     to   the   Alaska   Administrative  Code,   our   state                                                                    
     regulations,   are   required   to   disclose   certain                                                                    
     information about the  regulation, including the reason                                                                    
     for  the proposed  action, costs  of implementation  of                                                                    
     the regulation  to the adopting  agency and  the origin                                                                    
     of the proposed regulation.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     To  provide better  information about  regulations that                                                                    
     may  significantly   affect  private   individuals  and                                                                    
     businesses,    other   state    agencies   and    local                                                                    
     governments,  House Bill  140 requires  that regulation                                                                    
     notices  include  information   about  estimated  costs                                                                    
     beyond those to the agency.   In view of the increasing                                                                    
     reach  of the  Washington D.C.  into Alaska's  affairs,                                                                    
     the   bill  also   requires  that   when  the   federal                                                                    
     government is the reason for  the regulation, the exact                                                                    
     federal law, executive order  or decision be identified                                                                    
     in order  for Alaskans to better  understand government                                                                    
     actions that affect their businesses and lives.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Open  government  is  a   great  American  and  Alaskan                                                                    
     tradition.  I  respectfully  request your  support  for                                                                    
     House Bill 140.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  then highlighted the letters  of support                                                               
from the Council of Alaska  Producers and the National Federation                                                               
of  Independent Business/Alaska  in members'  packets and  stated                                                               
that there are more letters of support to come.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:40:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ROBERT  PEARSON,  Staff,  Representative  Lora  Reinbold,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature,  paraphrased  from  the  following  sectional                                                               
analysis, which read:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  1 Short  title:  "Regulation Impact  Transparency                                                                    
     Act."   House   Bill   140  will   require   additional                                                                    
     information  in   state  agency  notices   of  proposed                                                                    
     regulations, specifically  to increase  transparency of                                                                    
     the  proposal's   fiscal  impacts,  including   to  the                                                                    
     private sector.                                                                                                            
     Sec. 2  Under current Alaska Statutes  44.62.190(d) the                                                                    
     agency  is  required  to  provide  a  "reason  for  the                                                                    
     proposed action." If the reason  given is "federal," HB
     140 will  require identification of the  federal action                                                                    
     that  is the  reason  for the  proposed regulation.  It                                                                    
     also adds  a requirement  to estimate  compliance costs                                                                    
     to  private  persons  (including  private  businesses),                                                                    
     other state agencies and municipalities.                                                                                   
     Sec. 3 Applicability:  applies to regulations proposals                                                                    
     noticed on or after the effective date of this act.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARSON then  directed attention  to  the document  entitled                                                               
"What does HB  140 do?" and noted that it's  a notice of proposed                                                               
regulations.    Page  2  of  this document  is  what's  known  as                                                               
additional regulations notice  information under AS 44.62.190(d),                                                               
which  is the  only  part of  the  law that  will  be changed  by                                                               
HB 140.   As specified on page  2, Section 2(1) will  require the                                                               
state agency  supply a reference/citation  of the federal  law or                                                               
other action that could include  anything from an executive order                                                               
to the combined  federal register.  The only other  change HB 140                                                               
would  make is  to  insert Section  2(3)(A),(B),  and (C),  which                                                               
would require  the estimated costs to  private individuals, other                                                               
state  agencies,  and  municipalities  will be  included  in  the                                                               
regulation notice.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:44:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PEARSON pointed  out  that the  fiscal note  for  HB 140  is                                                               
indeterminate and  highlighted the fiscal note  analysis language                                                               
that says, "... more detail is  needed as to whether the estimate                                                               
required is a  general estimate of impacts for a  group or set of                                                               
municipalities  or for  each individual  municipality, etc."   He                                                               
offered his belief  that the language in HB 140  is clear when it                                                               
refers  to  an  estimate  of  annual  costs.    He  acknowledged,                                                               
however, that it isn't a  number encompassing every person in the                                                               
state  who may  be  impacted  by the  regulations  but rather  is                                                               
simply  an estimate  of  costs  to the  impacted  entities.   The                                                               
agencies  should be  able  to  make an  estimate  based on  their                                                               
knowledge  of   the  regulations  and  community   to  which  the                                                               
regulations apply.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:45:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER expressed favor with HB 140.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:46:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT said  she likes  the concept  of HB  140.                                                               
She then asked who would  be responsible for making the estimates                                                               
of  annual costs.    If  the Office  of  Management  & Budget  is                                                               
responsible  for  making the  estimates,  she  surmised that  the                                                               
workload would increase significantly  or an economist would have                                                               
to be added to each department.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARSON  answered that the  sponsor doesn't  anticipate major                                                               
personnel  requirements  for this  change.    He noted  that  the                                                               
regulations  notice always  has a  signature at  the bottom  of a                                                               
regulations  specialist, assistant  to the  commissioner who,  in                                                               
effect, is  the one  who signs  the estimate.   However,  in each                                                               
department  that promulgates  regulations,  there  are those  who                                                               
have  expertise in  the  area being  regulated.   The  regulation                                                               
specialist  would ask  for the  necessary information  to provide                                                               
the estimate and put  it in the notice.  The  thought is that the                                                               
departments  know   the  regulated  community  and   who  they're                                                               
regulating and  should know  to some degree  when they  propose a                                                               
regulation  whether  it  will  cost the  public  or  other  state                                                               
agencies and include that information.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  expressed  interest  in  hearing  whether                                                               
departmental  commissioners  would   anticipate  an  increase  in                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARSON deferred to others who  may be better able to address                                                               
that question.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:49:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD relayed that she  is willing to work with                                                               
DOL  to  develop  language  that   would  make  this  legislation                                                               
possible.    She  then  emphasized  the need  for  the  state  to                                                               
identify from where  the regulations are coming  and do long-term                                                               
thinking.   She  mentioned that  as chair  of the  Administrative                                                               
Regulation Review  Committee she plans  to hold hearings  on this                                                               
issue, and thus there should be more information forthcoming.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  KELLER  expressed  interest  in hearing  from  the  Alaska                                                               
Municipal League  (AML), particularly since the  legislature does                                                               
impose mandates that cost [municipalities] money.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:50:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  inquired which department  promulgates the                                                               
most regulations.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. PEARSON  answered that the Department  of Commerce, Community                                                               
&   Economic  Development   (DCCED),  with   its  licensing   and                                                               
professional boards, is the largest promulgator of regulations.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX  suggested that  the commissioner  of DCCED                                                               
be invited to speak at the next hearing on HB 140.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:51:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CATHY  P.   FOERSTER,  Chair,  Alaska  Oil   &  Gas  Conservation                                                               
Commission  (AOGCC), Department  of Administration,  provided the                                                               
following testimony:                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     From   the  perspective   of  the   AOGCC  HB   140  is                                                                    
     problematic  in its  current wording.   The  commission                                                                    
     does not wish  to be in the position  of conceding that                                                                    
     federal law  or a federal  court decision does  or even                                                                    
     could  require us  to promulgate  regulations.   And  I                                                                    
     think  that  statement speaks  for  itself,  it sets  a                                                                    
     state's rights  precedent that is  counter to  where we                                                                    
     [AOGCC] sit;  we make regulations based  on what's best                                                                    
     for the  citizens of Alaska,  based on what we  do here                                                                    
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. FOERSTER then expressed AOGCC's  concern that it doesn't have                                                               
the time, resources,  or expertise to make a  determination as to                                                               
the economic impact  on all the listed entities.   The AOGCC, she                                                               
highlighted,  has  a  process  in  place  such  that  during  the                                                               
promulgation of  regulations ample public notice  of the proposed                                                               
regulations,  additions, or  changes is  included.   Furthermore,                                                               
hearings  on  those  changes are  noticed  and  written  comments                                                               
before or during  the hearing are welcome as is  testimony at the                                                               
hearing  itself.   She  noted that  generally  lots of  comments,                                                               
including the  parties' estimates of  the economic impact  of any                                                               
regulation changes are received.   The process, she opined, works                                                               
really  well,  even  though  the  AOGCC  doesn't  have  financial                                                               
experts.  From  conversations with DOL, Ms.  Foerster related her                                                               
understanding  that  with  a   bit  of  collaborative  "tweeking"                                                               
AOGCC's  concerns with  HB 140  can be  addressed.   Ms. Foerster                                                               
clarified that she isn't stating  opposition to HB 140 but rather                                                               
believes it  should receive the  thought and  attention necessary                                                               
to ensure that it says what is desired.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:55:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR KELLER announced that HB 140 would be set aside.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD related  her expectation  for push  back                                                               
from the government  as it's not accustomed to  "looking down the                                                               
road."   Therefore, Representative  Reinbold said she  is willing                                                               
to work  with the departments in  hopes that they are  willing to                                                               
partner with industry  in order to move the  state forward toward                                                               
the goal of a long-term sustainable future for the state.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:56:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Judiciary Standing Committee meeting was adjourned at 2:56 p.m.                                                                 

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 140 Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 ver. N.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 Fiscal Note-Office of Management & Budget.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 Supporting Document-What Does HB 140 Do.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 Letter of Support-NFIB.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
HB 140 Letter of Support-Council of Alaska Producers.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 140
CS HB 57 ver. O.pdf HJUD 3/18/2013 1:00:00 PM
HB 57